October 11, 2018

Carefully taught

Q: It’s shocking how computers can be so sexist

A: Not really the computers; more the users

Q: But they took this computer program and showed it lots of people’s applications, and it downrated the ones from women

A: Yes, but that’s because they also trained it with information about which applications they thought were best, and it learned from them that women’s applications weren’t as good

Q: Couldn’t it just have seen that more men that women were accepted because more men applied, and over-generalised?

A: Not really. It should be looking at the probability of acceptance, which wouldn’t be affected by overall proportions, but would be affected by human bias.

Q: Could the bias all have come in via word associations, like in that ‘how to make a racist AI’ blog post.

A: Perhaps. But only if they weren’t really trying. In particular, however the bias came in, they should have been aware of the potential and audited the results. I mean, this is a respectable organisation; you’d assume they were that responsible

Q: That sounds like a simple piece of advice

A: Yes, but even 30 years later, people are still making the same mistakes

Q: Wait, what? Aren’t we talking about Amazon?

A: No, St George’s Hospital Medical School, London.  In the BMJ in 1988, based on a program written in the 1970s

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Thomas Lumley (@tslumley) is Professor of Biostatistics at the University of Auckland. His research interests include semiparametric models, survey sampling, statistical computing, foundations of statistics, and whatever methodological problems his medical collaborators come up with. He also blogs at Biased and Inefficient See all posts by Thomas Lumley »

Comments

  • avatar
    Steve Curtis

    The applications mentioned are for entry to medical school. From a quick look at the first page of the BMJ article they ‘tuned’ the software so that it gave a very good match to the previous ‘manual’ application panel method of selecting students for an interview. Even then race wasnt a question in the application but the program deduced it from the surname and place of birth. Even so that particular medical school still had a significant ( for 1988!) higher portion of students who were minorities.

    6 years ago

  • avatar
    Antonio Rinaldi

    What do you think about Strumia slides at CERN?

    6 years ago